But, HELLO, they have been breeding with people who do, at least some. Early gray hair is a White European thing. Turkmens are distributed mostly in eastern north of Iran and are originally of Mongoloid race. The idea of Aryan as blond/blue was overlain on the cultural identity. Someone rightly corrected me, about the hair. Talk about one step forward, two steps back. If you work at a university surely you have access to the library. The ancient Lebanese shared far more with the Greeks of antiquity, than they did with the semites. the name Iran means Aryan. Their language is Bakhtiari which is a main subcategory of Persian family. “Persians will never forget their defeat at the hands of Arabs in the Battle of Qadisiya 1,400 years ago. Many could pass for Southern Italians or Greeks. This hatred, Zibakalam argued, is not the product of the current hegemony conflict in the region, as many people might suspect, but has its roots in history. Or are you one of those who think that only blue eyed Whites are truly White? Required fields are marked *. They are gentlemen in general and pursue education to return to their countries. If you ever looked at a map of the world you might notice that one of the longest north south rivers on earth, the Volga, goes from N Russia to the Caspain sea. As to the Phonecians (sp), they were NOT ARAB. Well, they were pretty soon kicked around by British, Russians and in the end Americans as well. Anon #20: Just take a Subway ride. The true Iranians were Germanic and were know for their red hair. His German ancestors were Mennonites, a Christian sect. Iranians dislike Arabs, not all of them, but some, for good reasons. Some Persians look like Mediterranean Whites. Could you even identify Persia on a blank map of the world? âIf for example we take jokes as an indication of the way we view people, you will find how the Turkmens and the Lur are the most ridiculed in our jokes.â. Over the centuries, and most tragically in the last three generations, Lebanon has been swamped by low IQ, violent palestinians and other arabs. They simply lost to kinky hair, dark skin and eyes, and lower intelligence.”. Arabs and Iranians in the Islamic Conquest Narrative analyzes how early Muslim historians merged the pre-Islamic histories of the Arab and Iranian peoples into a didactic narrative culminating with the Arab conquest of Iran. Most do not have the intellect to succeed in academics and are known for paying for their marks. Idk bout Iraniansâ¦ Henry 7:14- You are displaying a deep ignorance of historical fact. Originally Published by the Gatestone Institute. But they were fleeing the browning of their country, as we flee the browning of our towns and states. Don’t just read it, study it often, as you would Cranmer’s prayers in the Book of Common Prayer, 1928. Read Richard Weaver’s “Life Without Prejudice,” 1957, in Modern Age. One couldn’t mistake Iran for Sweden. The Iranian kurds are indistinguisable from central Europeans. The Iranians are caucasoid, so are Indians, Turks, Arabs, Berbers and, indeed Europeans. Some claim to be white but it's not true most wear colored contacts lighten their skin and dye their hair. There are a lot of kurds in Persia. The Muslims are going to be in a lethal mood for at least a generation. Arabs like some Jews are Semitic. And You can still find a few Lebanese who are indistinguishable fro Europeans. Ethnically Iranians are not Semites.These remarks apply to the ethnic majority (80%) of Iran, as it has Kurds (also Indo-European), Baluchis, Arabs, Qashqaii (Turkic), etc. And Lebanon: This was NOT an Arab culture. How “Aryan” are the Parsees? They simply lost to kinky hair, dark skin and eyes, and lower intelligence. Caleo is correct. They need to stop calling themselves Aryans. When you live in the middle east you know very well the meaning of stereotypes and mixing right and wrong ideas and information. My friend in Iran, very much an intellectual, refused to even watch Al Jazeera because it was Arab and as he explained, they utterly hate Arabs. Many are black haired brown eyed brunettes. Most of the independent businesses in my neighborhood are owned by Persians. Persians do not have kinky hair and dark skin. This is so very true! I doubt it. Iranians were able to mix socially with Western foreigners, mostly Americans mostly due to their ability to adopt Western mannerisms and a keener ability to speak both Russian and English. No, of course not. The White immigrants, Russians, Persians, Armenians, and Israelis are the only Whites who have not succumbed to race suicide. President Eisenhower was not a Swedish Jew. “Solid brown” in the way that most Indians (not all), for example. They were incredible traders, seafarers, navigators, explorers. Theirs was NOT an Islamic place or people. Those people were incredibly industrious, inventive and forward-thinking; centuries ahead of their neighbors. There are millions of Persians in this country. It’s a pity the article didn’t include any examples. Here are my general impressions of the two groups. If Iranians are a violent and irrational people, then it follows that the U.S. government should not reason with them. I would consider Iranians to be a threat to Western/White Civilization only to the degree that they harbor fanatical Islamic beliefs. Qashqai people constitute another great ethnical group in Iran. He was a German American. The Nazis took the term from a language group–the Aryan family of languages. I assume you mean black african slaves. "Arabs are comprised of people from different ancestries and they are distributed over two adjacent continents, while Iranians mostly live within the borders of one country â¦ Written by baharmedia on December 16, 2016 in New Blog âIranianâ and âPersianâ mean two separate things. There is a lot of fair skin, hazel and gray blue eyes and brown hair among Persians. Sadek looks somewhat like Woodrow Wilson. The name Caucasian comes from the caucuses, a region that is assumed the ancestors of these people first lived, which was BTW part of Persia until about 150 yrs ago ( so Persians in a way are more Caucasian than the rest if one â¦ They look standard Arab tan skin black hair. Arabs: Why Is the EU Mourning This Iranian Scientist? There is no historical literature or oral tradition native to Europe that describes europeans as aryans. One distinctive feature of many Persians are very shining big black not brown eyes. Europeans have been subverted by Marxism to think that you have to like the whole world and that the whole world should come to your lands and settle. Therefore: Persians =/= Arabs. I have been to Iran one look at the people and their civilization tells you it is another Third World dump. Iranians (Persians) should be considered Mediterranean whites. I have known several Iranians and on first seeing them take them for Italians, a mistake not helped by the fact that their surnames sometimes sound Italian. is a 5th world dump. What do Iranians have to do with King Tut? Europeans have common ancestors with Iranians and Egyptians relatively recently. Anyone on this site ever studied Farsi, the language of the Persian ethnic group of Iran? The policy was not to help that side win the war, but to avoid losing so that the war would continue. When asked whether the stance of the people is similar to that of the government as far as hatred of Arabs is concerned, Zibakalam replied in the affirmative. They look French. Listen to our foreign minister, parliament speaker, or even mosque imams, and you will notice that derogatory tone they use and which focuses on the racial and not the political superiority of Persians.”. This means that Aryan migration had at most 15% contribution to European DNA, and this does not even count all the other migrations into Europe (Turkic, Berber, etc.) Arabs/Jews/Iranians, North Africans, etc as well as Northern Europeans, etc are ALL CACASIANS. It is just that Persians and Arabs dislike each other mostly because of the 900Ad conquest of Persia by the Arabs. The most ignorant of your latest statement is that Persians have been breeding with very dark people with low intelligence. However, the situation tends to be different in Iran. Yet they can’t make the obvious connection between Arabic brought Islam and the cultural babarism that it inflicts on any society that adopts it. That same goes for other groups, such as Kurds and the Baluchi, he added. Might not be to our best interests, but meh, that’s not really what it’s about and they have no intrinsic reason to care about it anyway. The article is about 2 non European ethnic groups in the middle east western asia part of the world. They tend to have brown hair and fairer skin that many Persians. I just love hearing good racist jokes about the Lur. Even Henry and annonymous 11 can’t deny that Zibakalam’s nose and lips are typical scots irish thin nose and very thin lips, just like mine. There are also Zorastrian and Baahi Persian temples in the US. Zibakalam was born in 1948 to a Shiite family in Tehran and obtained his Ph.D. in political science from the University of Bradford in the U.K. They have certainly prospered as an exiled cultural community more endogamous than the Jews. There is actually more of Zorastrianism in Christianity than there is Judaism in Christianity. Do you know what countries border Persia? One of the biggest stereotypes that I get from foreigners when I travel abroad or on the first day when I greet my foreigner guests, is that Iranians are Arab and Iran is an Arab â¦ So, if they are not actually white, they are pretty close. There are hundreds of websites about Swedish and Jewish Americans. I am getting tired of hearing about “arab mathematics”. Zibakalam was a critic of the Shah and a supporter of former Prime Minister Mohamed Mossadeq. True most Persians donât have kinky hair. Arabs have always been hostile to Iran and considered/consider us as their historical enemies, and for religous (Shia/sunni sect) reasons also, especially the Persian gulf arab states and people. He added that Persian racism against Arabs becomes very clear in language, and that the establishment of the Persian Language Institute was intended to carry out a plan to remove Arabic words from the Persian language. They gave the Greeks their alphabet, for crying out loud. While you may find some blond or blue eyed Persians, they are in the minority. So whites had better not go the way of ancient Greeks, and (Let’s not argue trifling specifics) most other once- whiter groups around the Med. African slaves were too far away. The Persian civilization is one of the oldest and most refined in the world. He was sent to jail for two years during the Shah’s reign. Which were Sanskrit, Persian, Greek, Latin, German and a host of Slavic and Baltic and Celtic languages. Tom none. You could probably find a Church or mosque or club. Iranians and Arabs, though they live in the same geographical area and embrace the same religion, have had different historical experiences, he explained. In general they appeared whiter than Arabs. Arabs live in many countries across the Middle East. The policy of the Reagan administration was obviously not something to announce in a speech before the United Nations. Iranians are NOT White Europeans. Aryanism had been a focus of study among Orientalists since the mid-1800s, with the French being the most active and since the mid-1800s, Europeans, esp. The Persian language, as well as Sanskrit, Hindi,etc., are Indo-European languages and are directly related to the languages of Europe. “The phenomenon of hating Arabs is very common among intellectuals in Iran,” he said. Remember, at one point, Europeans dominated around 85% of the world. Why do you keep posting about Persia and Persians when it is obvious that you know nothing at all about them or the country? Arabs = Semites. They started to immigrate to Iran from the pre-Islamic era, during the reign of Sasanian. Read some history. One of the things known about Zebakalam is that he has never belonged to any party, and that he criticizes both conservatives and reformists. There is an Arab section of Persia. He, however, expressed his regret for taking part in the revolution and issued a direct apology. Iranian Hospitality : Iranians are world-famous for being courteous and welcoming, and it is not a social etiquette to abide by. Obviously they are not Europeans. Ever look at a map? Are Iranians Arab: Iran is a neighboring country to many Arab regions and it is natural for tourists who choose Iran as their adventure destination to ask this question: Are Iranians Arab? Nevertheless, it was a clever and wise policy. Lebanese people absolutely HATED being arabized. With savage tribes and semi-civilized states it’s always so damned messy. There is no serious debate about that fact. Arabs are nasty ugly and stupid. They come from an ancient civilization that was the chief rival of Rome in the later Roman Empire. This is a great ethnical group in Iran which is mostly distributed in middle Zagros regions. My point is that it gets absorbed, unfortunately. “If for example we take jokes as an indication of the way we view people, you will find how the Turkmens and the Lur are the most ridiculed in our jokes.”. To hell with that. These people have yet preserved their old life style. Persia is far from the Mediterranean. Reply. Many Americans seem to entertain the illusion that Iranians are Arabs. It reminds me of an Indian Hindu scholar who pointed out that the sub-continent’s muslims have been conquered twice, once by the British, and earlier and much more effectively by the Arabs. But many just looked at the word Persian and blasted away that the issue is that Persians are not White. Incidentally, Germans are the preferred foreign wives in Iran because they are considered to be pure Aryan. Zibakalam also admitted that this “racism” for which Iranians are known is not practiced against Arabs only, but also against other non-Persian ethnicities inside Iran. This is true with regards to Iranian & Arab students as well. Mirzai said Afro-Iranians are often referred to as the âblacks of the Southâ and many Iranians still believe that their dark skin is the result of â¦ Many of you make us look like fools, not bigots, just ignorant fools. Islam is all about Arab imperialism. The conquered non-Arab peoples were always too brainwashed to understand this. Even that is wrong. “Yes, people are like the government, and may be even more racist and intolerant.”, For example, he said, when a couple of years ago the U.A.E said it was not going to drop its opposition to Iran’s occupation of three disputed Islands in the Gulf and referring to the “Persian Gulf,” large numbers of people rallied in front of the U.A.E embassy in Tehran with a cake that had 35 candles: they were making fun of the U.A.E’s 35-year history, compared to Iran’s 2,500.”. Fair ruddy skin, light brown or hazel eyes, dark brown hair turning gray. At that point the Reagan administration was afraid that Iran would win, and that an Iranian victory would be blamed on Reagan. They need to stop calling themselves Aryans.”. What with extreme Shiism and crime in Russia it might have been revived since the revolution. Have you ever looked at a map of the world? Before we pontificate about Persians, perhaps we should take a look at them. I’d be skeptical of this if it weren’t for one fact: the concave “ski-jump” nose shape with a bulb on the end seems to appear only among Lithuanians and northwest Indians. The ancient aryans occupied India and Iran. They started to immigrate to Iran from the pre-Islamic era, during the reign of Sasanian. They mostly speak in Arabic. #8 Arabs. My HS history teacher spoke of an Indo-Aryan people that split into three branches: one branch in northwest India, one in Persia, and the third making its way to the Baltic States, particularly Lithuania. What is their racial relationship to Iranians of Zoroaster’s time, west Europeans and the Islamified Iranians today? Their language is Baloch which is a branch of Persian Family. What â¦ Somebody need to tell this caller that Iranians are not Arabs. Iranians also have a very rich poetical tradition. The Iranian I married has paler skin and green eyes. The Persian Christians are called Chaldean Catholics. What are the entertainments of the Iranian people? The literature, architecture, poetry, cuisine, and art (especially carpets), are among the finest. Russia is on the north side of the Caspain sea, Persia on the south side. T was very poor. #@1: They have only lost when no one remembers what they once were. Their eyebrows are rather intensely dark and heavy and that gives them a distinctive “middle eastern” look. I lived in Iran for three years and it was my experience that Persian culture far surpasses that of the US in every way. Find a Persian and look at him or her. He and his parents were Presbyterians. We live in Iran; and just like you, we are interested in travelling. They just don’t strike me as a brown people; just darker than white Euros on the average. “âIranians are NOT White Europeans. This shows how small a minority of Arabs are in Iran. Linguistically speaking, racially speaking, culturally speaking, there is a lot of difference. But they are not from S. Europe, they originated in S. Russia. And my point in that whole post, is, dark skin, coarse, kinky hair, brown eyes and LOW INTELLIGENCE tend to win in the mixture of races. In fact, some Arabs live in Iran, where they make up 3-7% of the population. “Arabic words that have been in the Persian language for more than 1,00 years would be removed even though they are mentioned in great literary works like The Shahnameh and the poetry of Rumi, all of which are parts of our history.”. It’s happened down through the ages to white, or near white peoples. Persia is far from the Mediterranean.â âBefore we pontificate about Persians, perhaps we should take a look at themâ Anonymous, I wasnât talking about Geography âAnomymousâ but about racial classification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race, The fact is that most Iranians, on average, racially resemble people from Southern Europe.”. He added that Iranians also criticize their compatriots who travel to Arab countries. Also: US ally S.Arabia’s richest oil fields are in Shi’ite provinces, 1/4 of Saudis are pro-Iran Shi’tes and Iran is allied to Russia. But, HELLO, they have been breeding with people who do, at least some.”. This may be due to the fact that many people in both communities practise Islam, which I'll mention â¦ Obviously you do not know where the Persians obtained their slaves. That was my point. But in the UK people from Italy and Greece are called olive or sallow skinned not white. We, the same as you and the rest of the world, had heard and read about theÂ glory of IranÂ from our grandfathers, in the old books, and in history classes. I live in a Persian neighborhood and see Persians all the time. I’d imagine “Persians” feel just the same. Iranian Hospitality | Persian Hospitality. Anyone who can still maintain their hate in the face of Multicultural Diversity is a hero to us. There was a large exodus of real Lebanese in the late 1800s and early 1900s. After defining the borders of Iran and Soviet, a group of Turkmens decided to stay inside the borders of Iran. This was covered in my freshman high school year, verified by every historian who ever wrote about Persia for the last 5, 000 years. To answer this question, we need to introduce races and ethnic groups who reside in Iran and also answer this question;Â What is the ethnicity of Iranian people? It clearly states that Iraq, not Iran, is Arab. Caucasus which is in Southern Russia. It is in our interest to encourage them to direct their lethal energies against each other. Y’all don’t know your history, your genetics, and you are arguing about things that used to be ‘shared in common’- Weaver’s point about the Commies ‘divide and conquer’ strategy sounds more like the actions of a people who engage in pilpul on a daily basis, than Aryan/White/European Christians…. Zibakalam said there is a link between racism and a lack of education, and pointed out that this is the case in Europe, where people who express hatred against Jews or Muslims or foreigners are mostly uneducated. Persians imported their slaves from what is now Russia, crimea, Circassia, caucasia, Georgia and Ukraine. Very little. As far as Iranians being European/Aryan that is absurd. However, that doesnât mean Iranians are âWhite,â since âWhiteâ is a racial descriptor that refers â¦ Roughly 61% of Iranians are Persians, another 16% are Azeris, 10% are Kurds, and 6% are Lurs. There is no such thing. Hopefully, it is true that Iranâs citizens are awakening to understand the suffocation that Islam has brought to their nation; a nation that should have been on the forefront of human accomplishment instead of burning its energy in a cyclic, â¦ Arabs are not Europeans as though that is some major discovery. Initially all these were written in Phoenician script. By the way, working in a University environment, I’ve known many Iranians, and have even counted some as my friends. Henry white europeans and americans need to stop calling themselves aryans. As far as typical Persian looks, they tend to have olive skin and v. dark hair & eyes, but lighter coloring is not extremely rare, esp. 20 said: “Anglo Saxon Scotch Irish and German Whites betrayed their own. Also Read: Isfahan City, a Living Museum of Traditional Culture! throughout history. It was Anglo Saxon and Scotch Irish Judges and a German President. Keep in mind that MSU is top university in Russia, and the best option for middle easterners so those whom I lived with were from the select class. As they get older and their hair get less intense, they look less “middle eastern.” Sometimes older Persians didn’t look Persian at all to me. All modern Iranians are is what Americans will be in 2000 years from now if present trends persist. Iraq was polluted by Arabs as was Iran and Egypt and lots of polluted places. Of course, you can find a minority of Iranians who have European phenotypes, because both Iranians and Europeans have shared heritage from some of the same ancestral populations, which Iâll get into in the following sections. The ancient Persian stock was indeed much more white than what we see today. If you travel, it is the best racial education one can get. I only post things I know to be true. In college, I commonly ran into Indians with identical, although brown, noses.). Persians cannot be distinguished from any other Whites. as the Ghaznawid empire and the Timur invasion. They imposed – through subjugation to Islam – their values culture and supremacy upon the otherwise far more advanced Persians. The fact is that most Iranians, on average, racially resemble people from Southern Europe. Arabs vs Persians. And Where are the Greeks of antiquity? Too bad they ended up with that dirtbag Islamist government. What do Arabs and Iranians know of each otherâs art, literature, history, politics, and traditions? It is true that the present day Egyptians are not descendants of the ancient Egyptians. Arabs are White only on govt papers/forms to boost the white population %. Someone rightly corrected me, about the hair. That is because they never imported black slaves. The Persians and Hindus have every right to refer to themselves as Aryans, because they are the inheritors of the culture and languages of the ancient Aryans. There is not a lot of hope for White nationalism when White nationalists reject every White whose ethnic homelands are south of Paris and east of Vienna. Still, if they can get rid of that or neuter the Guardian Council like lots of Europeans neutered their monarchs, I think they’ll do well. Same thing with Egyptians, they call themselves true Egyptians, but it was recently released that King Tut was White European, so how many other Pharaohs and the greater population were White?â”. The author said absolutely nothing about Persians or any other ethnic group in the area being European. The Persian mosques are separate from the Sunni mosques. (PERSIANS) The questions, âAre Iranians the same as Arabs?â âPersians versus Arabs?â âIranian vs Persian?â âAre Iranians and Persians considered white?â âIs the language Persian or Farsi or Arabic?â âIs the country Iran also called Persia?â âThe difference between Arabs and Persians?â No. Amusing bluster from the Persians as they continue to be fanatical followers of the faith imposed on them at scimitar-point by the Arabs. Racism isn’t the problem; Europeans giving up their lands to foreign people is the problem! Anonymous 20. Arabs are distinguished from other people on the basis of culture, genealogy, and language. He is currently a member of the Scientific Association at Tehran University. Lebanon was a Christian place, during, and after the time of Jesus. The Persians bought their slavic and S Russian slaves from the slavers who went up and down the Volga,capturing them and shipping them across the Caspian sea to Persia. It was not a part of the ancient meaning. Are Iranians Arabs? Perhaps the word “white”, if it has to be used, should be confined to Europeans. The founding stock of the Mughal empire were a mix of Iranian and Turkic peoples from Afghanistan, and the same peoples invaded India earlier, e.g. Saud Al-Zahed, Al Arabiya News, October 9, 2011. The present present day Egyptians are a combination of the 700 AD Arab conquerors and their black slaves. He is mentioned on all of them as a German American President. There are close to 400 million people in the Arab world. 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